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This podcast dives deep into the commercial baking industry. Every season, a new guest shares their insights on innovation through the lens of becoming more sustainable, growing a family-owned business, debunking myths and more. Hosted by Joanie Spencer, editor-in-chief of Commercial Baking.
This podcast dives deep into the commercial baking industry. Every season, a new guest shares their insights on innovation through the lens of becoming more sustainable, growing a family-owned business, debunking myths and more. Hosted by Joanie Spencer, editor-in-chief of Commercial Baking.
Episodes

Sunday Jan 08, 2023
S6E1: A Deep Dive Into Chabaso’s Values and Practices
Sunday Jan 08, 2023
Sunday Jan 08, 2023
Welcome to Season 6 of the Troubleshooting Innovation podcast, sponsored by JLS Automation.
Joanie Spencer, editor-in-chief for Commercial Baking, visits with the team at Chabaso Bakery. Hear about their journey to becoming a Certified B Corporation and building a business as a force for good.
In this first episode, you’ll meet Charles Negaro, Jr., CEO of Chabaso Bakery, as he dives deep into Chabaso’s values and practices.

Sunday Dec 04, 2022
S5E5: Strategic Growth and Lessons from IBIE
Sunday Dec 04, 2022
Sunday Dec 04, 2022
Welcome to the fifth season of the Troubleshooting Innovation podcast, sponsored by the National Honey Board.
Joanie Spencer, editor-in-chief for Commercial Baking, talks with Rebecca Abel, owner of D’Vine Cookies in Taylor, MI. They're looking at cookie production through the lens of an entrepreneur, from starting a bakery, to moving into the first big facility, to strategic growth in operations and product development.
Our final episode explores strategic growth in the baking industry. How are business plans and capital investments changing as we head out of pandemic trends and into a new world of workforce challenges and supply chain disruptions? Abel shares how she's pivoting, especially after learning so much at this year's International Baking Industry Exposition.

Sunday Nov 27, 2022
S5E4: People Development
Sunday Nov 27, 2022
Sunday Nov 27, 2022
Welcome to the fifth season of the Troubleshooting Innovation podcast, sponsored by the National Honey Board.
Joanie Spencer, editor-in-chief for Commercial Baking, talks with Rebecca Abel, owner of D’Vine Cookies in Taylor, MI. They're looking at cookie production through the lens of an entrepreneur, from starting a bakery, to moving into the first big facility, to strategic growth in operations and product development.
This episode explores people development: the big issue on the radar of every bakery, big and small. Abel shares her journey with developing her own professional skills as a first-time bakery owner, while also providing training and education opportunities for her own employees along the way.

Sunday Nov 20, 2022
S5E3: New Kid on the Industrial Park Block
Sunday Nov 20, 2022
Sunday Nov 20, 2022
Welcome to the fifth season of the Troubleshooting Innovation podcast, sponsored by the National Honey Board.
Joanie Spencer, editor-in-chief for Commercial Baking, talks with Rebecca Abel, owner of D’Vine Cookies in Taylor, MI. They're looking at cookie production through the lens of an entrepreneur, from starting a bakery, to moving into the first big facility, to strategic growth in operations and product development.
This episode explores Abel's experience of what it’s like to be the new kid on the industrial park block. She talks about her company's strategies for capital investments, the support she's received from having already well-established bakeries as her new neighbors, and beyond.

Sunday Nov 13, 2022
S5E2: Product Development
Sunday Nov 13, 2022
Sunday Nov 13, 2022
Welcome to the fifth season of the Troubleshooting Innovation podcast, sponsored by the National Honey Board.
Joanie Spencer, editor-in-chief for Commercial Baking, talks with Rebecca Abel, owner of D’Vine Cookies in Taylor, MI. They're looking at cookie production through the lens of an entrepreneur, from starting a bakery, to moving into the first big facility, to strategic growth in operations and product development.
This episode unpacks key learnings for product development and R&D.

Sunday Nov 06, 2022
S5E1: The Choice
Sunday Nov 06, 2022
Sunday Nov 06, 2022
Welcome to the fifth season of the Troubleshooting Innovation podcast, sponsored by the National Honey Board.
Joanie Spencer, editor-in-chief for Commercial Baking, talks with Rebecca Abel, owner of D’Vine Cookies in Taylor, MI. They're looking at cookie production through the lens of an entrepreneur, from starting a bakery, to moving into the first big facility, to strategic growth in operations and product development.
Our first episode explores the early days of D’Vine and a young entrepreneur’s choice to manufacture cookies.

Sunday Sep 11, 2022
S4E5: People, Training and Culture
Sunday Sep 11, 2022
Sunday Sep 11, 2022
Welcome back to the fourth season of the Troubleshooting Innovation podcast. Stephen Hallam, brand ambassador for Dickinson & Morris and chair of judges for the Tiptree World Bread Awards, explores the elements of artisan bread baking that can — and should — be incorporated into commercial bread production.
Our final episode is all about people, training and culture in the world of artisan bread production at scale. Hosted by Joanie Spencer, Commercial Baking editor-in-chief.

Sunday Sep 04, 2022
S4E4: Baking with Machines
Sunday Sep 04, 2022
Sunday Sep 04, 2022
Welcome back to the fourth season of the Troubleshooting Innovation podcast. Stephen Hallam, brand ambassador for Dickinson & Morris and chair of judges for the Tiptree World Bread Awards, explores the elements of artisan bread baking that can — and should — be incorporated into commercial bread production.
Our fourth episode is all about working with machines: some of the misconceptions and important elements of bringing automation into artisan baking. Hosted by Joanie Spencer, Commercial Baking editor-in-chief.

Sunday Aug 28, 2022
S4E3: Mixing Dough
Sunday Aug 28, 2022
Sunday Aug 28, 2022
Welcome back to the fourth season of the Troubleshooting Innovation podcast. Stephen Hallam, brand ambassador for Dickinson & Morris and chair of judges for the Tiptree World Bread Awards, explores the elements of artisan bread baking that can — and should — be incorporated into commercial bread production.
Our third episode focuses on the process of mixing dough and how it can impact the artisan process, especially on a commercial scale. Hosted by Joanie Spencer, Commercial Baking editor-in-chief.

Sunday Aug 21, 2022
S4E2: Time and Temperature
Sunday Aug 21, 2022
Sunday Aug 21, 2022
Welcome back to the fourth season of the Troubleshooting Innovation podcast. Stephen Hallam, brand ambassador for Dickinson & Morris and chair of judges for the Tiptree World Bread Awards, explores the elements of artisan bread baking that can — and should — be incorporated into commercial bread production.
Our second episode focuses on time and temperature, often considered to be the most important factors of the artisan process. Hosted by Joanie Spencer, Commercial Baking editor-in-chief.
